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Montag, 12. April 2010, 23:13

Destiny - Silkoroad movie by wiNt

I made this video for people who have little faith in himself.
I wanna thanks again to all of you...
And I hope, that everyone are able to be a "legend" for someone.
Choose your destiny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyySt1eESp0

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Montag, 12. April 2010, 23:23

One more time you proofed your skills in Video Editing :)

I Like it =)

5/5

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 09:01

Like it!
5/5
This is life without you,
Learning how to miss you,
I guess I need to know how it feels like..


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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 10:35

Just gimmickry, nothing special. You could improve your story telling instead creation of effects.

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 15:00

Just gimmickry, nothing special. You could improve your story telling instead creation of effects.


One question, have u ever made movie ? ; )

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 15:12

Well, just 1-2 silkroad scenes, but some already finished AE files, to create those texts.
Anyways .. boring and nothing special.

Btw, you really don't need to find any reasons for a feedback, just accept it.

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 15:45

uhm
at the end you wrote "sukcess" - it should be success :p
Du hast ein Ziel, wenn du einen Traum hast.

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 16:27

some already finished AE files, to create those texts.


What u mean ? I made everything by myself using AAE + 3D softwares for text.
Text wasnt done in AAE, in AAE only effects like fire balls or something.

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 16:59

I liked the video :)
4/5 :)
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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 17:37

You should really find someone, who watches over the language in you movies. It's like.... what?... your 10th movie or something? And you improved your english very little by now. I'm sure, you know some guys, who could help you. Language mistakes are bad ones, because the tend to destroy atmosphere very easily. But they are very easy to fix, too. So please. Get yourself a mate, who could help you. It's about time for that!

The concept with the black dots is a good idea. But it's overedited. Too many dots, there is no balance between the elements. You also repeat camera movements often. That's a solution if you don't feel like editing more. But it's a bad one, IMO.
Additionally I can't see any overall concept. You have 3 different effect schemes built in the movie. Where's the connection? It feels like a house built of wholly different Lego stones. This only looks good to kids. But not to ppl who are actually into the stuff. What I wanna say is: Think about a concept and use it in a consistent way. Don't jump between concepts.

I like the part 0:21 to 0:28. It's synched quite well with the music although just cutting in a black screen doesn't really do it. Try to use other means for emphasizing.
I didn't like the camera shaking. It didn't really fit in and it was unrealistic. Watch trailers or movies to get a feeling of the "physics" of a camera shake to get it look realistic.

Another minus point goes for the big black frame. Dude, why just don't pan & crop the whole vid to make it a watchable resolution? Did you notice that more than half of the screen is actually black? When I see things like this, I clearly see that you either don't feel like really investing work into your project or are just another guy who thinks he can make movies because he plays around with effects from Vegas or AE but doesn't even know the basics of movie making. That's very poor.

And never ask people if they have ever made a movie only because they criticize your own. Even if they don't: what difference does it make, when they point out valid things? People don't have to make movies to get enough competence to post critics.
Wir müssen [...] der Versuchung widerstehen, ein Geflecht von Gesetzen herzustellen, hinter dem eines Tages die Freiheit unsichtbar wird. - Helmut Schmidt[/size]

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Dienstag, 13. April 2010, 19:10

Like it very much :thumbsup:
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Mittwoch, 14. April 2010, 02:53

Hey wiNt, :winke:


I've already posted some critique below a few of your creations (I'm not quite sure if you actually read them). But anyways, let me ask you a question: Have you ever watched two, three, or ever more of your videos one after another skipping the trailer? In case you haven't, you really should try, because you will probably notice, that the actual content of your videos is exchangeable (no matter if the movie is called "chosen one"/"destiny"/"darkness" or whatever). You tend to making a melodramatic intro so that the gentle viewer will wait for some clear action which suits the prospect, but there is none. It's always the same (please be sure that I respect serious work!) rubbish.

Like Masaku said: "Think about a concept and use it in a consistent way."

You should really take these words into consideration. Moreover, I'd like to add something: I know that Silkroad doesn't offer that many options to make a nice movie, but you can try to make most of it. But making most of it doesn't mean putting tons of effects over it. Effects shouldn't be what makes a movie but rather what frames it - "the icing on the cake". What you should do is keeping it restrained, spending more time into making a good cut - a nice cut can emphasize a crucial scene more than any blinking or shaking ever could! And once again: make a concept! Don't make ten movies, just make one or two with a really decent concept, make a lot of takes ingame, so that you have a huge range of scenes that you can chose from.

Don't get me wrong: I don't think your work is total rubbish (even if I used that word once), I just think that you still have a lot of potential that you don't use, even after your 10th movie and for what reason ever. Also, I don't want you to make a movie like I would do it. Those were just some guidelines and if you spend some time following them, you will certainly notice that there is still a lot of space in which you can display your own ideas. :)


Best regards - keep at it!
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From now on will be total organization.
Every muscle must be tight.

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Mittwoch, 14. April 2010, 08:21

I'm sure that, when you are talking like that, I should be motivated to do better movies but :
1. I'm not proffessional movie maker
2. I asked about that, he ever made movie cuz some of you dont know how much work I put in one movie, and I dont like when someone say "lame movie" and this is his point.
3. My last movie was like 2 month ago ? So I'm not like a factory.
4. I'm "old" in this (since 4 years) I doing movies for you, and for some of you I'm still this one best movie maker and for some of you I'm "too old" for next movies. But you dont see my point, I dont doing movies for myself..I doing it for you. And I dont MUST do them, I CAN. People become accustomed for movies...
5. Like someone said, Silkroad is a noob game where I trying to add something that we think its worth to play...
6. I cant do movie for EVERYONE, some of you dont like it because there isnt any pvp/job/unique and some of you like it because they have seen enough movies when player killing unique by 9 minutes...
7. My resolution/quality is done for people who have low and fast net. I dont do movies which is loading like 20 minutes. 3 minutes is max, and you can watch even all movie which is 8mins long.
8. My effects are fit to music. If is fast track I need to do alot of effects which reflect the music.
9. In last movie, I had just one mistake and not cuz I dont know how to write it but I write it in polish language and I forgot to change it (cuz I was working like 5h in last day of edit). Same was when I wrote "Silkoroad" but "Silkroad".
10. My last words will be from movie "be yourself to be someone" I dont wanna be pwn own awesome movie maker. I wanna be a normal guy, with some skills in edit/recording movies.

Anyway thanks for good words. I would have MORE criticize like this.

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 2 mal editiert, zuletzt von »wiNt« (14. April 2010, 08:39)


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Mittwoch, 14. April 2010, 09:20

Just gimmickry, nothing special. You could improve your story telling instead creation of effects.


One question, have u ever made movie ? ; )


Yes for one borough of berlin. We used professional cameras, learned how to tell stories with picutes, how to set light, how to interact with people and how to cut it for the final release. But what would be if I didn´t worked for a movie? My critique is meant very serious ;)

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 1 mal editiert, zuletzt von »AndaKawa« (14. April 2010, 16:24)


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Mittwoch, 14. April 2010, 23:21

Thx for your answers. Lightened up a bit how you feel about your own work.

1. I'm not proffessional movie maker
3. My last movie was like 2 month ago ? So I'm not like a factory.
10. My last words will be from movie "be yourself to be someone" I dont wanna be pwn own awesome movie maker. I wanna be a normal guy, with some skills in edit/recording movies.
Hey, that's cool. I mean, everyone around here are normal guys (at least I think so :ninja: ). I'm sure that you, as well as every other movie making guy, do this as a hobby. So be it non-professional. And don't take our critics as a demand to be professional. Take them as advice on how to develop your abilities and improve your skills in movie making. As long as you want to develop and improve. But being a creative scene I think most of it's members are interested in becoming better and better.
Good work takes its time. I know that perfectly well. So take your time for a good movie. And if it takes more than 2 or even 3 months - so be it. Few innovative movies are far better than a mass of average ones.

2. I asked about that, he ever made movie cuz some of you dont know how much work I put in one movie, and I dont like when someone say "lame movie" and this is his point.
Well, he said something similar, to what I said - just with fewer words and maybe a bit more offensive. But you have to understand: We watch your movies, write critics and point out mistakes only two discover the same mistakes in your following movie(s) again. To us (at least to me here on this board) it seems that you post your vids here and don't even give consideration to it. That's quite frustrating, you know. That's not an excuse. Just an attempt of an explanation.

6. I cant do movie for EVERYONE, some of you dont like it because there isnt any pvp/job/unique and some of you like it because they have seen enough movies when player killing unique by 9 minutes...
4. I'm "old" in this (since 4 years) I doing movies for you, and for some of you I'm still this one best movie maker and for some of you I'm "too old" for next movies. But you dont see my point, I dont doing movies for myself..I doing it for you. And I dont MUST do them, I CAN. People become accustomed for movies...
In my opinion you shouldn't create movies for anyone but yourself, unless you're a professional. The reason is simple: There's a 100% chance to fail in pleasing everyone by this. As you see, there everytime are people disliking certain things. Don't do what others want. Do what you want. The most important thing is that you are pleased with your work and feel it to be ready to be released. Never try to meet expectations of others. That only leads to frustration and resignation.
I totally don't understand how some people can say that you are too old. This thing is a hobby. Unless by bodily or mentally handicap, you are never too old for hobbies!

7. My resolution/quality is done for people who have low and fast net. I dont do movies which is loading like 20 minutes. 3 minutes is max, and you can watch even all movie which is 8mins long.
Sry, that was a misunderstanding. What was actually talking of was the aspect ratio. What I wanted to say was that you cut out too many of the picture. Or better said: You put to much black onto the screen. YouTube's video format has a default aspect ratio of 16:9. Because you lay so much black over it the possible effective aspect ratio (and therefore the effective visible - i.e. not black - pixels) is never met even close. That is the reason why we see those thick black borders around the the image. So the advice here is: don't lay black layers onto the picture. Simply crop the unwanted parts. A positive side effect of this is, that you can save disk space and upload time by doing that. The reason is: the black layers on the picture are actually rendered pixels and therefore need space.

8. My effects are fit to music. If is fast track I need to do alot of effects which reflect the music.
That's cool. But there's a difference between a lot of effects and a lot of different kinds of effects. A concept of a few different effects gives your movie a certain style and makes it look professional. In contrary, a lot of different kinds of effects makes your movie look inconsistent and concept-less.

9. In last movie, I had just one mistake and not cuz I dont know how to write it but I write it in polish language and I forgot to change it (cuz I was working like 5h in last day of edit). Same was when I wrote "Silkoroad" but "Silkroad".
What's about a break then? ;) Why does a movie have to be finished on that day when it also could be done the other day? As I have written before: take the time it takes to make the movies. Don't rush. And even if it takes a week longer. It's worth the time when you can avoid mistakes like that this way.
Wir müssen [...] der Versuchung widerstehen, ein Geflecht von Gesetzen herzustellen, hinter dem eines Tages die Freiheit unsichtbar wird. - Helmut Schmidt[/size]

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Donnerstag, 15. April 2010, 08:30

So at first, I would read same critics from everyone as you writting :)
Because this helps me more, than comment like "you can do better movies" , "nice, 5/5" or something.
I'll try to read everything again, point by point while making movie.
But some of people, want more and more from my productions and its weird.
From them its not enough this what I doing, its my own time, and like I said I CAN do movie...
I could leave it in anytime...I left like 2 times, but when I saw nice comments like "back", "we miss you", "you were our legend".
So I decided to back, and in return I have some haters that trying to crash my hobby.
In my next movies, I trying to add something new. Something that in Silkroad Movies no1 saw it.
I could do movies in Movie Maker, without effects but people will say "nothing special", cuz no effects.
I trying to show people, there is unlimited possibilities and everyone can do his own movie...
Effects are only part of the movie, but everything is in our head.
I made all kind of movies like : uniques, pvp, job, story, parody, movie about leaving, movie with thanks words and I cant invent something new besides effects. So some people are bored of my movies, but they havent idea too what THEY can do in their own movies. So I asking, are they just trolling or are they envying ?
Sometimes I dont get the point from them, when they linger.

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Donnerstag, 15. April 2010, 14:11

boring! auch wieder nur n video, wo jemand zeigt, das er ne software benutzen kann. klar, war vielleicht viel arbeit, trotzdem langweilig.

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Donnerstag, 15. April 2010, 15:10

mulks post

boring! auch wieder nur n video, wo jemand zeigt, das er ne software benutzen kann. klar, war vielleicht viel arbeit, trotzdem langweilig.

Translation for wint

Boring. Just another video where somebody shows that he is able to use softwares. Sure, maybe it was much work, but still boring.


And no, i dont agree with him :p
Du hast ein Ziel, wenn du einen Traum hast.

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Donnerstag, 15. April 2010, 15:15

Its no story at all, thats a critic of me :]


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Donnerstag, 15. April 2010, 20:57

Spoiler Spoiler

So at first, I would read same critics from everyone as you writting :)
Because this helps me more, than comment like "you can do better movies" , "nice, 5/5" or something.
I'll try to read everything again, point by point while making movie.
But some of people, want more and more from my productions and its weird.
From them its not enough this what I doing, its my own time, and like I said I CAN do movie...
I could leave it in anytime...I left like 2 times, but when I saw nice comments like "back", "we miss you", "you were our legend".
So I decided to back, and in return I have some haters that trying to crash my hobby.
In my next movies, I trying to add something new. Something that in Silkroad Movies no1 saw it.
I could do movies in Movie Maker, without effects but people will say "nothing special", cuz no effects.
I trying to show people, there is unlimited possibilities and everyone can do his own movie...
Effects are only part of the movie, but everything is in our head.
I made all kind of movies like : uniques, pvp, job, story, parody, movie about leaving, movie with thanks words and I cant invent something new besides effects. So some people are bored of my movies, but they havent idea too what THEY can do in their own movies. So I asking, are they just trolling or are they envying ?
Sometimes I dont get the point from them, when they linger.

i like almost all of your movies and i love that amazing effects.
don't get in stress only cause some of your fans say they want more now!.. like you said it's your time. so spare your time and take as long as you need and want to, your work is great, but instead of creating one short movie after another with insane effects you could organize some friends for a rly nice and long storyline, i know it's hard, i created some movies myself, only random pvp, uniques and some effects cause i never got the time and the ppl to create a good story, but i think you got the talent for it.
yeah it's hard to find something rly "NEW" to show, e.g. your trailer to "Silk Wars" was amazing with that light sabers. i was disappointed that you never finished that movie :(

oh and by the way.. there is nobody on our planet who hasn't got some haters.. let them hate, ignore them..
keep goin' i would love to watch your next movie, but pls give it some time to create the best movie you can give to us ^^
peace!